Advisors Off Script
Advisors Off Script is the podcast where financial advisors step away from the polished talking points and get real about what it takes to build, break away, and boldly grow. These are stories from the independent front lines. Every advisor has a choice: follow the script laid out by the industry—or write your own.
Formerly known as Kick It Open, the show is hosted by Shelby Nicholl, founder of Muriel Consulting and known as the “RIA Whisperer.” She brings candid conversations, insider insights, and practical strategies that help advisors move from uncertainty to clarity and from frustration to freedom. Because this isn’t just a podcast—it’s your playbook for building boldly and living off script.
Get ready for amazing guests, including advisors who have tread the journey before, leaders from the firms serving independent advisors and partners who help advisors create thriving practices.
Here at Muriel Consulting, we're helping advisors kick the door open on their personal success by living a life off script.
About the Host
Shelby Nicholl is the founder and lead consultant at Muriel Consulting, where she helps financial advisors break free from limits, align their businesses with their ambitions, and build thriving practices. With 25 years in leadership roles at firms like LPL Financial and Edward Jones, she combines deep industry experience with her passion for empowering advisors to take bold steps toward independence and success.
She is also the founder of Muriel Network, a digital community for women in wealth management seeking connection, inspiration, and growth.
Advisors Off Script
Tripled to $2 MM Top-Line in 5 Years – Growing in a Rural Market | Matt Bragg & Kellie Schleicher
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Matt Bragg has been a financial advisor for over 30 years. He grew up watching farm families lose everything because no one talked about money. That experience never left him — and it shaped every decision he has made about how to run his practice.
In this episode, Shelby sits down with Matt and his associate Kellie Schleicher, a two-person team based in rural Missouri that has tripled in size over the past five years at Smith Moore — a 100+ year old, advisor-owned independent firm. Their approach is deliberately simple: no proprietary products, no sales quotas, no 60-page spreadsheet plans. Just principled guidance, kitchen table conversations, and a commitment to meeting clients exactly where they are.
Matt and Kellie talk through the move to Smith Moore, what advisor ownership actually means in practice, how they manage explosive growth with a lean team, and why they have turned away clients from opening investment accounts when it wasn't the right call. This is a conversation about what financial advising looks like when relationships come first — and what it can produce when you stay true to that.
Topics covered:
- Matt's origin story and the farm crisis that shaped his "why"
- What they were running from — and running toward
- Smith Moore's ownership model and what "independent but not alone" means day to day
- 3x growth in 5 years as a two-person office
- Why they use a legal pad and calculator instead of a planning portal
- Telling clients to pay down debt before they invest
- Building a rural market through walk-in trust
- The lightning round: client gifts, small market lessons, and what takes too long to learn
Hosted by Shelby Nicholl. Produced and edited by Aaron Sherman. Operations and Guest Coordination by Shelly Hadel.
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